Subject	unfortunately, thats not how the ZCON process works
Posted by	Adam (NoVA) on February 11, 2012 at 8:16 AM
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In Reply To	The point here is that they go without the money. It is not posted by RAGTPZ on February 11, 2012 at 07:07 AM
Message	Actually, you are absolutely wrong on your first point. The Arizona Z Club, and its associates ARE responsible for finding sponsorships for ZCON. Each ZCON is managed and administered by the hosting club. It is 100% up to them to recruit sponsorship, and manage the budget for that years ZCON. If there is a shortfall, the ZCCA can (and will) step in and recruit additional sponsorship as needed. The only sponsorship that ZCCA manages today is Nissan. Moving forward, there has been discussion around having ZCCA maintain the relationships with larger sponsors. This has largely been in response to some of the issues last year. Many sponsors (large and small) were not even contacted about participating in ZCON. Long term I agree that it is in the best interests of the ZCCA and ZCON to have these managed at the 'corporate' level. I do not believe that taking your ball and going home is going to have the desired result in the long term. The petition has proven that ZCCA members do not want AMS as a sponsor. If those that signed it simply boycott, the response will be "it doesnt matter, because those people don't come to zcon anyways". Helping to find alternative sponsorships, whether those be grass roots or corp. will ensure that the hosting club is not punished by the community as we look for a long term resolution. 1993 Ultra Red Z32 TT Convertible 2011 Electric Blue D40 1997 Cobalt Green S14 (project fun 2.0) The Z Car Club of Northern Virginia "boobies have power" - Bernie(NoVA)
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Death to imported knockoff (ripoff) parts. (n/m) - CameronSF 11:00:50 02/10/12 Thanks!! (n/m) - Piranha 00:33:37 02/11/12 I'm in for $100, SENT (n/m) - LJZTT 12:27:39 02/10/12 Damn thank you!! (n/m) - Piranha 00:34:05 02/11/12 Personally, I feel the more effective way to accomplish this - RAGTPZ 14:35:42 02/10/12 and then is this going to have to be a yearly thing? - Alan(MD/NJ) 14:43:38 02/10/12 ProjectZ32 fully plans to support ZCON 2013 - Piranha 00:37:39 02/11/12 The point here is that they go without the money. It is not - RAGTPZ 07:07:48 02/11/12 ^^^^ is the correct answer !!!! Enough is enough! - ConVerTT 08:04:18 02/11/12 See you in AZ?? (n/m) - Piranha 08:31:47 02/11/12 unfortunately, thats not how the ZCON process works - Adam (NoVA) 08:16:55 02/11/12 This is the correct answer (n/m) - Piranha 08:29:38 02/11/12 Ok, then why is the Arizona Z Club allowing this? If it - RAGTPZ 16:35:44 02/11/12 Allowing what?? (n/m) - Piranha 16:51:43 02/11/12 long term this is not a scalable solution - Adam (NoVA) 14:48:39 02/10/12 2nd, Its great that people are doing something - FuerGrissa 14:54:47 02/10/12 Agreed, but atleast the ball is rolling..... (n/m) - whip 16:44:55 02/10/12 I had mentioned this a few months ago to a ZCCA - Piranha 00:25:12 02/11/12 They have that attitude because people are still going - RAGTPZ 07:10:25 02/11/12 If only it were viable. I just don't think it is. (n/m) - SeedyROM 03:38:10 02/11/12 To those who would decide to boycott: - Adam (NoVA) 08:42:03 02/11/12 Just got promoted at work... - DennisW (satx) 20:55:21 02/10/12 Congratulations and thanks for the support! (n/m) - Piranha 00:34:54 02/11/12 Total received so far: $1180.93!! - Piranha 00:22:16 02/11/12
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